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Post by limerickrats on Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:04 am

The vets gave men some Dermactin to put on Cashie's wound. It smells really strongly of mint/eucalyptus (like Olibas oil?) and I'm thinking it might be a bit overpowering for her? Can anyone recommend a soothing, antibacterial cream to suit a rat? My vet always puts calendula cream on the closed incision line after surgery. It's soothing but not sure if it has healing properties as well? She put some on Cash after the op and it didn't seem to bother her. Actually I thought it was remarkable there was so little inflammation after the surgery. Is there something different about rats' skin?

In the sanctuary we often use sudocreme on sore bottoms and on chafed little noses, but I don't know if it's safe for rats?
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Re: Recommend a cream?

Post by katherine on Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:08 am

i've heard people say that grapeseed extract is amazing for healing.

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Post by limerickrats on Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:39 am

Is it safe for ratties Katherine? If so I might give that go! Will be in the health food shop tomorrow.
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Post by Zoundz on Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:59 am

Manuka honey, propolis cream is brill. Don't know about Grapeseed extract, and have used Sudocrem in the past on injured tails too.

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Re: Recommend a cream?

Post by Lew on Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:08 am

I've always just used Germolene.

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Post by limerickrats on Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:56 am

I'll give it a go with the germolene or sudocreme. Something nice and moist is easier to apply than the dermactin or intrasite gel. I don't want to be poking at her trying to get the gel to stick, when she's sore. Might still check out the health food place tomorrow though.

In other news, the naughty girl has removed all her stitches! Shocked Mercifully, the closure is holding. I was treating her with kids gloves up to this - now I'll have to wrap her up in cotton wool altogether!
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Post by Lew on Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:03 am

I used Germolene on Sisko's post-neuter op-site as it is a local anaesthetic as well as being antiseptic. Not once did he worry his stitches.

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Post by smokierat on Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:04 am

What a rogue!they like to keep us on our toes dont they Roll Eyes Love

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Post by smokierat on Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:13 am

Its good to know about the germoline,i would have thought theyd just lick it n it would be bad for them but sounds like its a good thing to have around Smile

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Post by Lew on Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:47 am

I've always said that Germolene is magic ointment. Miraculous stuff. Grin

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Post by katherine on Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:23 am

The grapeseed is safe for ratties I'm sure because I saw it in rat warehouse. Germolene sounds like it'd wrk very well too though, I've used it on the cat before.

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Post by Lew on Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:29 am

FYI, it's actually grapefruit seed extract, although I've read that the efficacy of it is doubtful. Given a choice of that and Germolene I know which one I'd choose. Wink

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Post by katherine on Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:38 am

oh really? Lips Sealed Embarrassed

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Post by Lew on Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:42 am

At least there's a good chance that the proper medicines were tested on rats in the first place, unlike the GSE.

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Post by Zoundz on Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:35 pm

That's a good point I suppose Smile I'd not heard of the GSE being used before - would be interested to see it in action myself, see if it does make a difference. I've found that Propolis cream (despite being a 'natural' remedy) does seem to have some healing properties - but then, honey does! Smile

I remember once being properly told off for using Sudocrem... because the phenols in it that gave it the lavender smell were like the phenols in woodshavings that destroy the liver Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Laugh load of rubbish!

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Post by limerickrats on Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:24 am

My little lady appears not to mind the taste of germoline - at least when I check after I've applied it, it's all gone! She gave me a fright with pulling out the stitches - thanks be to god it is all healing well and the wound didn't open up! She's such a maggot! The best news is she is walking on all fours now (she had been limping) and is grooming herself again so I definitely think she is feeling a lot better. Love

I didn't think castrations required stitches - usually the scrotum heals so fast they don't bother? Maybe it's different with rats.
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Post by Zoundz on Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:00 am

Aww - glad to hear she's OK.

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Post by limerickrats on Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:31 pm

Do you think it's safe to put her back in the cage with Tola?

I'm just conscious of poor Tola being lonely and also I have a bit of a niggly worry about keeping them apart for too long.

It's a week since the surgery tomorrow. Cash burst two stitches last Friday night and pulled out the rest of the stitches over the weekend. The two spots where the stitches burst are still open but they show no signs of infection.

I'm reluctant to put Cash back in the big cage in case having more room to move about and climb delays healing. Also it's more difficult to keep the big cage as scrupulously clean as the recovery cage. (Furet Tower is a pain in the behind for cleaning!)

I don't think Tola will rough-house with her or have a go grooming at the wound.

I was thinking maybe I'd put her back in the big cage with Tola on Monday next, which will be ten days post-op. But I'd prefer to reunite them sooner, if it's safe.

I'll ask the vet tomorrow, but I would value your opinions just as much!

How much longer do you think I should keep her on the Baytril and Metacam? I'm concerned about long-term use of Metacam in case it ulcerates her stomach.

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Post by Zoundz on Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:29 pm

I think a 7 day course of baytril *should* be ok personally. Metacam would be OK to stop now I would think, if she seems very sore, just give her a bit when she does.

Re. putting her back in with Tola, I would personally put Tola in the confined cage with her when you think the wound has healed enough to do so safely Smile

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Post by limerickrats on Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:26 am

Thanks for that advice Laura,

The girls were reunited this evening in Cashie's recovery cage and the two of them are snuggled up in their fleece cube now, happy out. Smile Cashie's wound looks fantastic - I'd say she can come off the Baytril but will double-check with the vet tomorrow. I didn't give her any Metacam this evening.

It's been a very traumatic week for myself and Cash - thanks for keeping me relatively calm! Tongue
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Post by Lew on Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:57 pm

If she's on Baytril I'd say that you're better off finishing the course.

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Post by Steve on Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:49 pm

Great to hear that Cashie is doing well and is on the road to recovery. Steve

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Post by limerickrats on Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:59 am

Thanks Steven. Smile

She's had seven days of Baytril so Cathy (vet) said she could safely come off it now. I have stopped giving her Metacam and she is full of beans and using the leg without limping so I think she can do without it. I am amazed at how quickly she is healing - will try and get pics at the weekend for ye. Love
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Post by katherine on Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:15 am

Brilliant news! Grin

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Post by smokierat on Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:46 am

Great to hear shes doing well Smile

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